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Alt 01.12.2002, 12:50
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Problemstelle: Blackwood Forest. Nicht nur, dass es saudunkel ist, irgendwielauf ich immer im Kreis. Ich dachte mal ich häte einen Ausgang gefunden, aber das war dann nur der Weg, durch den ich gekommen bin. Wo ist der Ausgang nach Aveh?
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Alt 01.12.2002, 20:29
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Zitat:
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Problemstelle: Blackwood Forest. Nicht nur, dass es saudunkel ist, irgendwielauf ich immer im Kreis. Ich dachte mal ich häte einen Ausgang gefunden, aber das war dann nur der Weg, durch den ich gekommen bin. Wo ist der Ausgang nach Aveh?

Der Ausgang liegt ziemlich gegenüber dem Eingang,du mußt allerdings über mehrere Plattformen und Baumstämme springen,die aber eigentlich recht einfach zu finden sind.Am besten du läufst erstmal in der Mitte eien Runde und schaust,welcher Weg vorhin führt.
Am besten hälst du dich an deinen Kompass damit du die Orientierung nicht verlierst

Und auf der PS ist der Wald recht hell :roll:
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Alt 01.12.2002, 21:04
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Is das nich der Wald, kurz vor Citans' (Hyugas') Haus? Der Dinosaurier da, kann einem nämlich ganz schön auf die Nerven gehen.......
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Alt 02.12.2002, 00:11
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Zitat:
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Is das nich der Wald, kurz vor Citans' (Hyugas') Haus? Der Dinosaurier da, kann einem nämlich ganz schön auf die Nerven gehen.......

Jep,es ist der Wald nach Citans Haus
Aber da meine Beschreibung wohl echt fürn ***** war,hier nochmal eine gute englische
(SPOILER vorhanden!!!)

Fei later wakes up on the outskirts of what was once Lahan. There the
remaining townspeople are gathered. Fei learns what he has done and Dan puts
all the blame on him for what happened. The people then get restless and even
begin to fear Fei. Citan then asks Fei to leave whatever is left of Lahan in
case reinforcements come; and, due to the fact that the people who once loved
and trusted him, now hate and fear him. Citan suggests that Fei goes through
the Blackmoon Forest and into Aveh so that the Kislev forces cannot track him
down. Fei agrees and leaves with a few last glimpses at the monster that
destroyed his village.

You will now find yourself on the World Map. The Blackmoon Forest is clearly
visible to the west of Lahan. Save on the World Map and then enter the
Blackmoon Forest.

NOTE: It is actually kind of dark but that depends on the color of your
screen. You can easily adjust the screen so that the forest is easier to
navigate through. Well, nevermind, I'm just stating this because this was a
problem for me at first.

Follow the path southward and the forest will suddenly be laid out in front of
you. Head west through the pathways and turn southwest between the two huge
tree trunks that are lying on the ground. Follow that pathway through the
tress and you will soon notice a path heading upward guarded by what appears
to be a Hobgob. Once you approach it, the Hobgob will jump up the path and
run away from you. Chase it and when it stops at the top of the path near the
tree, attack it. Once you defeat it head on over to the Save Point and save.
Head north along the upper pathway and follow it until another Hobgob comes
into view right in front of a boulder. Attack it and once you win, the
boulder that was behind of the Hobgob will begin to roll down the tree trunk
that you are currently on. Jump out of way back onto the ground an let the
boulder roll away. Don't let it touch you or you'll get hurt for 5 HP every
time it touches you! Once the boulder is gone backtrack east then head south
to where you will notice a huge stone lying on the ground that appears to form
steps. Jump on each of them, using them as stepping stones to jump onto the
tree trunk. Head down the tree trunk and when you are half way across you
will notice another tree trunk right under the current one you are standing
on. You should also notice an Item bag lying at the edge of the tree trunk
under you. So carefully jump off onto the tree trunk below you and get the
item which is an Aquasol. Get off the tree trunk a follow the same path up to
the Save Point. Then go back to the location where the boulder originally
was. Head up the new path that was created when the boulder rolled away to
exit the area.

However, as you exit the area, an animation sequence will start and a
mysterious woman will be shouting at you in an unknown language with a gun
pointing at your head. After a few seconds, she will then tell you not to
move and to drop down your weapon. She will then state something about you
being a surface dweller and a -Lamb- then asks you if you know a way of
getting out of the forest. So as it turns out, she is lost as well. The
mysterious woman will suddenly get attacked by a group of Forest Elves and
will be knocked out. All of a sudden Fei yells out to the Forest Elves not
touch Elly. Hmm…..it appears that he knows her name. How? A battle then
ensues. It should be an easy one at that too. Once you defeat the Forest
Elves Fei will take the mysterious woman and tend to her wounds. When she
wakes up, you then once again learn her name as being Elhaym or Elly for
short. You two decide to wait until after dark before you continue to look
for a way out.

Another animation sequence starts up again. It may seem kind of confusing but
at this point in the game, it should be for any new players. The little boy,
as you will notice, is most likely Fei as a young boy. Looks like he is being
abandoned in a desert and who the heck is that lady who helps him? Just keep
what happens in mind and continue on. You will then continue with your
journey through Blackmoon Forest. Now head south from your current position
until you come to a sign. It will state that the path up the cliffs are to
the east and right next to you. So head on up the path near by until you come
to another sign which states that Lahan Village is to the north and the
country of Aveh is to the south. Head southward and just in front of you will
be three groups of Hobgobs. You might as well attack them as the experience
you get from them will come in handy. They are also easy and this will give
you a chance to get some Hob-Jerky! The only problem is that when you
approach each separate group of Hobgobs, they will all jump off the cliff and
onto their own separate ledges. If you head west to the cliffs where the two
Hobgob groups jumped off you will notice a treasure chest on one of the cliffs
opposite of you and an item bag on the ground below the cliffs. Jump to the
ledge to where the treasure chest is and attack the Hobgob group. Then pick
up the Arcane Rod that lies in the treasure chest. Equip it to Elly and then
jump off the cliff to the bottom. Get the Aquasol that lies in the item bag
right in front of you and then head northeast to get back to the first sign
that leads you up the cliff paths. Go back to where you were before you
jumped off to get the treasure chest but this time jump to the cliff where the
second Hobgob group is waiting and attack it. Once you are finished with
that, follow the path as it wraps around the cliffs and you will soon see
another group of Hobgobs. As you approach it, it will jump down to another
cliff fight below. Follow it and once again, attack it. Just up ahead you
will see what appears to be some sort of bridge across a gap in the cliffs.
Elly and Fei will engage in a little conversation before you can go on and
will talk about why they are both in the forest. Fei will then blame himself
for everything that went wrong in Lahan and tells Elly what had happened.
Elly will then begin to think about what happened (meaning that there will be
a flashback) and you will learn that Elly had a part to do with the
destruction of Lahan by landing right in the middle of it while trying to
escape the Kislev Gears and then retreating out of her Gear and running away!
Fei will then blame the Kislev Gears for what happened and Elly will call him
a coward. Elly will then walk away and exit into the next area alone. As she
walks away, a new confusing animation sequence will begin with Elly in a
hallway with blood everywhere. Her own words that she had used against Fei
about him being a coward begins to echo in her as the scene expands to show
dead bodies and blood all around Elly. So it appears that she now feels
guilty for what she said to Fei! Oh well.

When it is through, she will continue to walk through the area however will be
immediately assaulted by a huge monster. Fei then hears her screen of horror
and gets up. However, before you go and rush into the next area, take a moment
to head across that bridge next to you to get a Survival Tent in the treasure
chest and to the save your game at the Save Point next to it. Now take Fei to
the next area and you will see Elly in the clutches of the huge monster known
as a Rankar Dragon.

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RANKAR DRAGON
HP: 480
EXPERIENCE GAINED: 380
TREASURES GAINED: Scales
GOLD GAINED: 0
CURRENT LEVEL-FEI: 15

The Rankar Dragon drops Elly and she lays there unconscious. You must now
fight that huge beast with your bare hands! As you can see, you can barely
hurt the Rankar Dragon (1-3 HP of damage with your normal attacks) and it
begins to beat you down. However, do not worry because after a few rounds,
Citan will appear in his Crab Walker (please e-mail me
<quasar@ffonline.zzn.com> if you know the real name for Citan's flying
machine) and will drop off a familiar device to help you out. The Gear that
had destroyed Lahan! At first, Fei is a little skeptical about getting into
the Gear that had destroyed Lahan but is easily convinced to get in and fight
when the Rankar Dragon turns its attention to Elly and begins to attack her.
Now you will stand a chance against the Rankar Dragon and this battle should
now be very easy to take care of. Simply use X button attacks and take it
down! Just don't use the Guided Shot Chi skill as it is useless against the
Rankar Dragon.
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When you defeat it, Citan will come down and you find out that the Gear has a
name known as Weltall. Fei at first does not want the Gear but Citan
convinces him otherwise as he will need the strength since he is now a
fugitive from the Kislev Army. Elly soon regains conscious and Citan explains
to her what had just happened. So it appears that Elly now owes Fei double
time! Anyway, the three of them decide to make camp as it is getting dark and
Weltall now needs repairs due to the last fight. After Citan inspects
Weltall, it turns out that two crucial parts, the knee actuator and the bypass
circuit, are both ruined. Elly is also having problems sleeping so Citan has
a little chat with her. In the conversation, Elly finds out that Citan knows
of what happened between her and the Gear fight at Lahan. Citan then asks
Elly for a favor. That favor is for Elly to leave the forest and go her own
way immediately while Fei is asleep. The reason for this is so Elly does not
get entangled in the situation with Fei and so she can go back to her own
family. He assures Elly that Fei will not learn of her true identity in the
military and about what happened in Lahan. However Elly still does not really
want to go due to the fact that she wants to apologize to Fei for what she
said about him being a coward when in fact she was actually the coward. They
then go on to talk once more about surface dwellers, or -Lambs- and other
aspects that may seem a little confusing to new players. Afterwards Elly
agrees to go, and leaves. However, in the morning to Citan's surprise, he
finds out that Fei had overheard half of their conversation. Fei then once
again goes on to blame himself, but Citan is able to lift part of the guilt.
Will it be enough though?

Next you are told by Citan that you should head out of the Blackmoon Forest
and head out across the desert to the town called Dazil. Citan says that
there you should be able to learn about what Aveh and Kislev are up to and
get some needed parts for Weltall as well. So now just head a little way up
west to find the path which exits from the Blackmoon Forest. As you leave you
will notice a huge airship fly by overhead. Citan assumes that it's the
aerial battleship from Aveh. You then learn from Citan that it was lent to
Aveh by the Gebler Forces which, as you read in the introduction to the game,
was currently helping Aveh in its fight against Kislev. You also learn that
Gebler is the special forces of the Sacred Empire known as Solaris. Once the
conversation is over head on out to the World Map.
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Alt 02.12.2002, 08:56
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Aus welchem FAQ hast du das denn? Naja, auf jeden fall @Koren wenn du hier schon Probs hast, dann wart ma bis zum Ende der ersten CD. Der letzte Dungeon vor (würd ich den Namen sagen, müsste ich spoilern) der zweiten CD, DER is Problemlastig. Und saulang is das Teil noch erschwerend dazu. Naja, auf jeden Fall noch viel Spaß mit Xenogears, das RPG, gegen das jedes Final Fantasy abkackt..........

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Alt 02.12.2002, 19:02
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Zitat:
Zitat von CowboyBebop
Naja, auf jeden Fall noch viel Spaß mit Xenogears, das RPG, gegen das jedes Final Fantasy abkackt..........

Genau meine Gedanken
Aber ich find um ehrlich zu sein den allerletzten Dungeon weitaus schwerer und komplizierter,allein schon weil man den in den Gears bestreiten muss und wenn das Fuel mal zwischendurch leer wird...auaua


Ansonsten findet man hier so ziemlich alles was man über Xenogears wissen muss/kann
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Alt 02.12.2002, 19:11
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Ich find das von mir genannte (namen nenn ich net, spoiler sucken nämlich) viel schlimmer. Allein schon wenn ich daran denke was man machen muss nachdem man von dem "Guardian Angel of Solaris" (du weisst wen ich meine, nicht White?), erfahren hat. *schauder* Da hab cih mich tausend mal verlaufen.......

Mata ne
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Alt 02.12.2002, 19:25
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Zitat:
Zitat von CowboyBebop
Ich find das von mir genannte (namen nenn ich net, spoiler sucken nämlich) viel schlimmer. Allein schon wenn ich daran denke was man machen muss nachdem man von dem "Guardian Angel of Solaris" (du weisst wen ich meine, nicht White?), erfahren hat. *schauder* Da hab cih mich tausend mal verlaufen.......

Mata ne

Erinner mich bitte nicht an "den" :roll: :roll:
Na gut der Dungeon mag zwar etwas schwerer und verwirrender sein,aber ich hab den Weg bis jetzt immer auf anhieb gefunden,ohne n FAQ oder sonstwas dafür lesen zu müssen :evil:
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Alt 02.12.2002, 19:28
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Spoilert hier mal ne so rum sonst les ich davon noch sm Ende was davon !

Bin auch erst am Anfang, da wo man gerade zum ersten mal in Barts Versteck ist.....
Hab aber noch net weiter gespielt...

Am meisten nervt das die Dungeons immer so unedlich lang sind und man Stunden lang spielt um nur ein bischen in der Geschichte voranzukommen .

Vor allem diese Endlos-Dialoge.....
Die können echt nerven aber ich wette da kommt noch schlimmeres.... dafür sind die Teile mit Animesequenzen voll gut.... und wenigstens mal etwas schnellablaufend.
Is ja recht "zähflüssig" der ganze Plot...
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Alt 02.12.2002, 22:02
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Damit wirst du dich wohl leider abfinden müssen Shade,denn die Gespräche werden wirklich noch länger und verwirrender
Man muss das Spiel eigentlich auch wirklich mehrmals durchspielen um wirklich den ganzen Plot zu erfassen :evil:
Ich selbst hab das Spiel wohl 3mal ganz und dann nochmal die zweite und nochmal die erste CD alleine durchgespielt bevor ich wirklich (mehr oder weniger) alles kapiert hab

Aber das Spiel entlohnt wirklich für alle Mühen die man während dem Spielen auf sich nimmt
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Alt 03.12.2002, 17:45
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Aber lass dich schon mal vorwarnen Shade, der Anfang von CD 2 ist extrem langweilig. Bis zu den ersten Storywenden zumindest, die sind noch heftiger als die von ende CD 1..........

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Alt 07.12.2002, 10:14
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Ich bin jetzt in der Stadt von Aveh um Margie zu retten. Fei ist bereits in der Arena eingetragen, aber ich muss immernoch was tun. Nur was? Mit wem muss ich reden?
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Alt 07.12.2002, 15:49
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Wenn ich nicht irre, musst du jetzt den Schlüssel für die Kanalisation finden. Der war glaub ich irgendwo bei so nem alten Mann, genau kann ich dir das aber auch nich sagen, sorry. Da WhitDevil das Spiel anscheinend öfter als ich durchgespielt hat, sollte er dir das besser beantworten können.....

Auf jeden Fall wirst du schon bald Bekanntschaft mit Wiseman machen

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Alt 08.12.2002, 13:13
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Ahja der Kanalschlüssel
Beim ersten Mal bin ich glaub ich drei Stunden in Aveh rumgeflitzt um den zu finden :evil:
Der Mann der dir den Schlüssel für den "Brunnen" geben wird befindet sich auf dem Marktplatz auf der östlichen Seite in einer kleinen Einbuchtung,liegt auf einer Art Gitter und hat einen braunen Mantel an.Müßte eigentlich recht leicht zu finden sein.Bei dem Gespräch ist es eigentlich egal welche Antwort du gibst,du bekommst den Schüssel so oder so.
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